SCOTT IAN Ñ FALA, MAS FALA
Sujeito articulado dando boa entrevista, conduzida por alguém q soube fazê-la.
(qualquer semelhança com o q costumeiramente lemos em Português ñ é NENHUMA coincidência)
Scott Ian falando sobre:
- ñ falar sobre música, e sobre os clichês em se tentar analisar disco novo
- sobre tempos idos de “radicalismo from hell“, hoje desnecessários
- sobre set-lists conterem ou ñ lados-b
Material pra discutirmos. Ou ñ discutirmos a respeito, hum?
Trechos pinçados, abaixo. Link completo do All Music:
http://www.allmusic.com/blog/post/anthrax
AllMusic: You toured on Worship Music for a good long while, you must be excited about getting to finally put some new songs in the mix live.
Scott Ian: Yeah, I’m definitely excited for it to finally come out and for people to hear it. Honestly, I hate talking about music, I find the whole process a bit of an annoyance, because for me, music needs to be experienced, you need to hear it, you need to feel it for yourself, you need to listen to music in your zone where you’re happy doing it, where it makes you comfortable. Music is an experience, and to talk about it, I don’t have words to describe what the new Anthrax album sounds like. I could say it’s a metal record and it’s heavy and thrash and all that, but it means nothing until you hear the songs. I’m excited about it coming out so I don’t have to talk about it anymore. People can hear for themselves what we worked really, really hard on and gave years of our lives to.
I don’t have any words to describe it other than the same 15 cliches that every dude says about their new album, because what else are you going to say? If I didn’t like the record, it wouldn’t be coming out. I love this album and I’m really excited about people hearing it.
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In the eighties, sure, we didn’t like the hair bands, and we were very vocal about it, and people ask me about that now and I just say, “I don’t care, who cares now? That was 30 years ago, why is this even talked about?” It’s funny to me, the idea of that person, that 20-year-old who had such an anger for everything else that wasn’t metal, “That’s not metal enough, you can’t call that metal,” that whole attitude. I’m not saying I was wrong for feeling that way, because a lot of those emotions got me to where I was, got Anthrax out of the basement and onto the map, because I was so devoted and so focused and so in love with this music that I was able to commit my life to it, it was that important to me, and it still is, on some level, but I don’t need to criticize or spend a moment thinking about that kind of stuff anymore. I’d rather do things that make me happy.
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AllMusic: People love to nitpick setlists online now. Would you do that as a kid with your friends?
Ian: It wasn’t until I became a guy in a band and I’d get to actually ask Gene Simmons, “Why won’t you play ‘Love Her All I Can’ in your set just one time, because I want to hear a deep track and I don’t need to hear ‘Rock and Roll All Nite’ again,” although it’s not like I’m against it, I totally understand why that song is going to be played every show, because if they don’t play it, 15,000 people are going to be upset, and 18 people like me are going to be like, “Wow, they didn’t play ‘Rock and Roll All Nite,’ they played ‘Two Timer,’” and he’s right. I asked him way back in the eighties, I said, “Why don’t you play ‘Love Her All I Can,’ why don’t you play ‘Ladies in Waiting?’” and he’s like, “Because you would be the only one in the audience who’d even know what the fuck song we’re playing,” and he’s not wrong.
I saw Aerosmith in ’02 or something on that Aerosmith/Kiss tour, and they played a whole bunch of their late eighties/nineties hits, then they busted into “Nobody’s Fault,” and I’m not exaggerating, we were at a shed with 15,000 people, and 12,000 people went to the bathroom and to get a beer, nobody knew what song they were playing, nobody, except us dudes in Anthrax down front losing our minds because they were playing “Nobody’s Fault.” So I understand it, and I’m in a band, so I’m in that same situation, people ask me all the time, “Why do you have to play ‘Antisocial’ every show?” and I’m like, “You know why, because everybody except for you and five other people want to hear ‘Antisocial,’” and it doesn’t matter how many times they’ve seen us. And I agree with that, I go to shows all the time, and if I went to see Sabbath on this tour and they don’t do “Iron Man,” I’m going to be bummed. How many times do you get to see Sabbath play “Iron Man,” it’s not like you’re seeing Sabbath 100 times a year, it’s once every couple of years. I want to hear that fucking song, I get it. I understand both sides of that equation, but the problem is you can never please everybody. We just have to put a set together that we feel is really strong and is the best songs in the allotted time we have, whether we’re opening or headlining.
A couple of years ago we did a whole bunch of shows playing all of Among the Living, and there are some deep tracks that we haven’t played since ’87, ’88, songs like, “One World” and “The Horror of it All” and “Imitation of Life,” so we’d play the album in order from front to back, so you get to song six, “Indians,” and then it gets to the last few songs and we could feel that drop-off in energy every night, because you get to those songs that we haven’t been playing live for 25 years, and it was palpable in the room, because people didn’t know the songs. Some of the hardcore did, but in general, everybody knows “Indians” and “I Am the Law” and “Caught in a Mosh” and “Skeletons in the Closet” and “Among the Living” and “N.F.L.,” everybody knows those songs, it’s the last three where people are like, “Yeah, I remember these,” but we’d feel it every night. You’d play “One World” and people were like, “Is this a new one?” So I get it. We try, and we did have a conversation about once we start headlining, we’d like to bring back some songs off of Persistence of Time, we feel like we’ve been ignoring some of those songs for a while and we need to play that stuff.
AllMusic: As long as they hear “Antisocial.”
Ian: Yeah, and hey, I want to play it. If I’m not bored playing it, then I don’t see a problem with it. I get bored playing some songs, and we’ll take it out for a year. “I Am the Law” hasn’t been in the set for a while now, we were just getting played out on it. If we’re feeling bored, then the audience is going to feel it.
doggma
19 de abril de 2016 @ 08:59
Excelente entrevistado o Ian é.
Não tem ação promocional mais embaraçosa que um músico tentar descrever o som de seu novo álbum. Até hoje lembro do U2 zoando isso numa cena do “Rattle and Hum”.
Sobre set-lists e lados B, quem diria, o Metallica nos proporcionou uma experiência de campo nesse sentido com o “Metallica by Request”. O resultado, como todos sabemos…
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0RzCcc_XDkQ/Urh-Z8lPA4I/AAAAAAAAHDg/Qhf79v0lu00/s0/Metallica%2520by%2520Request%2520%2528SP%2529.png
Acho que isso não tem solução não. Talvez em apresentações especiais em lugares menores, quem sabe.
Tiago Rolim
19 de abril de 2016 @ 09:56
Essa história de lado B, me lembra uma entrevista com Bono, onde ele fala que não existe mais essa coisa de lado b. É só a A e pronto. Aliás, o U2 passou pelo mesmo que o Metallica. Lançou um CD duplo ao vivo da turnê 360, só para o fã clube oficial. E pediu para os fãs votarem nas músicas que estaria no CD. Pois bem, tome One, Sunday Bloody Sunday, Pride, I Will Follow… E detalhe, teve músicas q NUNCA tinham sido tocadas antes na vida da banda. Tipo no show de SP, que eu fui tocaram Zooropa pela 1° é única vez na turnê. Daí eu pergunta, tá no CD? …
FC
19 de abril de 2016 @ 10:26
Numa escala muito menor de popularidade, o Gamma Ray em 2003/2004 lançou um disco ao vivo apenas com músicas que há muito tempo não constavam no set list ou que eles nunca haviam tocado ao vivo e o resultado foi sensacional.
Lembro que o Kai Hansen falou na época duas coisas interessantes. A primeira era que “não é só porque nunca tocamos uma música ao vivo que ela não é boa” e “fizemos uma enquete no site para os fãs escolherem as músicas e eles escolheram as de sempre. talvez eles não tenham entendido a ideia ou realmente não saibam que tocamos tal música em todos os shows”.
Sobre a entrevista do Scott, pra mim, pior do que fazer a pergunta óbvia sobre o que o artista acha do novo disco, era a mania Brigadeana, que eu nunca entendi, de perguntar na mesma entrevista sobre o próximo (!!!) disco. Qual a probabilidade de o artista responder alguma coisa diferente de “já temos algumas ideias, com novos elementos, mas mantendo as nossas raízes”?
André
20 de abril de 2016 @ 14:06
Por isso, muitas bandas desanimam de lançar material novo. O Dee Snider disse que dificilmente o TS lançará um albúm de inéditas por que ninguém se interessaria. As pessoas querem as mesmas músicas de sempre.
O Pearl Jam muda o set-list toda apresentação, mas, no fim, eles sempre tocam Alive, Black, Even Flow, Jeremy, Animal, Daughter etc.
Tiago Rolim
20 de abril de 2016 @ 17:10
Sim. Mas enchem os shows de lados B, músicas inéditas, que as vezes nem gravam em discos de estúdio. Mantém um núcleo de clássicos e piram no resto do show. Tipo tocar Un disco inteiro de surpresa, tocar covers diferentes enfim, variar. Mas isso é casado vez mais difícil de se ver.
märZ
20 de abril de 2016 @ 18:20
Estou só esperando a auto-bio do Scott baixar de preço pra comprar. Gosto da maneira que ele pensa.